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  • 1.  Raised Beds

    Posted 12 days ago

    Hello Everyone, 

    Seeking some advice on raised beds. We are (re)building our big growing area at school and trying to find a happy medium with facilities. They are very much in favor of our raised beds having a bottom to help with weed control in the future. I much prefer cedar beds for lots of reasons. Anyone have a good suggestion for raised beds that are not metal that have a bottom? I need at least nine 7X3 beds.



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    Benjamin Driscoll
    Sacramento CA
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  • 2.  RE: Raised Beds

    Posted 12 days ago
    Hi Benjamin,
    I will defer to others but I would not personally want to have a wood bottom on a garden bed.  I would think it would reduce drainage.  Our garden beds were build via some special funds and designed by a landscape architect.   It consists of compacted supsoil or I believe it was decomposed granite (I can check - I saved the plans for that detail) about 12" high with 12" of soil on top.  I wasn't happy about wasting 12" on the compacted soil or having only 12" of garden soil.  I think even 6" of compacted soil could help. Then gopher wire and weed cloth were laid on top of that.    That said, my own beds in my garden at home are just 2' high with only gopher wire at the bottom and I don't have weed issues aside from blackberries that I accidentally put where I shouldn't have.  
    They didn't attach the gopher wire well and so we had gopher issues starting in year 1 (one bed at first and then they got into several more).  But this is because the pipes and irrigation boxes were put inside the beds instead of having an external location.
    I am guessing in Sacramento you might have gopher or ground squirrel concerns like we do.

    One extra thing that a landscaper suggested was having a lip for sitting that goes out over the bed rather than sitting in/flush with the outer edge of the bed.  He said the gophers and critters have a harder time crawling over.  (Ours were made with the seat wall hanging in over the bed.  It also created a place for black widows to hang out.)

    Pam 
    Los Gatos, CA






  • 3.  RE: Raised Beds

    Posted 12 days ago

    Hi Benjamin,

    Generally, bottoms on raised beds are not good for soil health, as the plants absorb the available nutrients the first season, and there's little to no soil life (the microbes, worms, fungal networks can't migrate up from the soil with closed bottoms) - requiring heavy amendments and/or soil replacement every other year.  And as mentioned in other replies, drainage may be an issue depending on conditions in your area. Even fabric cloth under the beds creates challenges for veggies to thrive.

    However, if the beds are being built on top of cement, there's nothing you can do other than replacing/heavily amending the soil.

    Regarding the concern for weeds, it's only grass that poses a real challenge imho. And there's no real solution to that other than good cultivation in the fall and spring to remove runners. If you're building on top of grass and you can't remove it (if it's not sod), we've had success laying down cardboard, extending a foot or more past the beds (ie, the paths between and around the beds).  Past the beds we mulch with 4 - 6" wood chips  - we've tested covering the path cardboard with landscape-grade fabric and then adding the mulch. The cardboard under the beds is covered with half-compost, half soil.  Not much grass pressure the first season, but the roots from under the cardboard creep around the interior edges of the bed, so we are diligent in weeding deeply to remove the runners. By the third season we no longer have much weed pressure from the grass, but if we don't attend to it, by the end of the season it's a big job to clear it out.

    Ultimately, i think this is an issue for the organization - is there someone paid to be in charge of the garden maintenance/weeding.  If not, I hear what facilities is saying and it's likely grass will take over the beds.  



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    sue salinger
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